Episode 97

E97: Is Using AI in Your Work Considered Plagiarism? Erin Weighs In

Recently, I had the chance to weigh in on a fascinating LinkedIn post discussing whether using AI-generated content without giving credit constitutes plagiarism. As many of you know, my focus is on copyright infringement and protection, not plagiarism, but I thought it would be a great opportunity to clarify the differences between the two and share my perspective.

đź’ˇ Here are 3 key takeaways from my deep dive:

- Distinguishing Copyright Infringement from Plagiarism:

  - Copyright infringement involves the violation of legal rights granted by copyright law, such as reproducing or distributing a work without permission.

  - Plagiarism, on the other hand, breaches ethical standards. It involves using someone else's work or ideas without proper attribution and presenting them as your own.

- Legal vs. Ethical Violations:

  - Copyright infringement can result in civil and criminal penalties and is addressed by the court system.

  - Plagiarism is handled by the "court of public opinion" and can lead to reputational and professional consequences, such as loss of trust, academic penalties, and damaged career opportunities.

- AI and Ethical Considerations:

  - AI-generated content doesn't fit neatly into the traditional definition of plagiarism because AI doesn't have original ideas to credit or an intellect to acknowledge.

  - While using AI content without attribution isn’t necessarily an ethical breach, relying too heavily on AI for thought leadership might reflect poorly on one's originality and expertise.

Dive deeper into the intricacies of copyright and plagiarism.

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Hey, so recently I was invited to weigh in on a pretty interesting LinkedIn post.

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It was regarding AI, of course, and the poster asked, is

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plagiarizing AI, Plagiarism.

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So in other words, if you use AI, but don't give credit to AI, is that

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plagiarism and the poster used an AI generated response as the jumping

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off point for this discussion that AI generated response reads as follows.

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Using artificial intelligence to write essays and articles

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is considered plagiarism.

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Plagiarism is defined as representing someone else's work as your own

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without giving proper credit.

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So in the opinion of the poster, the answer is yes.

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In my opinion, the answer is no, and I will give you my reasoning behind

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that at the end of this episode.

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But as you know, all about copyright infringement, copyright protection

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and preventing copyright infringement and less so about plagiarism, but

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I do have some thoughts about that.

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I did think this was a great time to have a conversation about the differences

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between copyright infringement.

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And plagiarism because people often confuse the two.

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And in fact, I think that was why I was invited into a conversation

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about plagiarism, which is not something I typically address.

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So while copyright infringement and plagiarism do have some overlap, they

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present separate legal and ethical considerations and implications.

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So let's first talk about copyright infringement.

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copyright law grants the creator, the human creator of an original

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work, exclusive rights to use and distribute its creation.

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So the rights that you have exclusive right to under copyright law, the

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right to reproduce, the right to distribute the work, to perform it.

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to publicly display it, to create derivative works from it, and you have

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exclusive right to grant others the right to do any of those things with it.

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So if somebody wants to do those things, they can only get that permission

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from you as a copyright owner.

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copyright infringement occurs whenever someone does one of those exclusive

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things that are exclusive rights to you without your permission.

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We have copyright infringement and it is a legal violation and it can result

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in civil as well as criminal penalties.

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Some examples of copyright infringement, reproducing some or all of a book

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without permission of the author, posting a copy of a movie to YouTube,

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which, happens without authorization.

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I recently, I mean, YouTube's been around, I didn't know what the big deal was.

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And I recently discovered what the big deal is.

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And now I'm a huge fan.

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and I will say that what has gotten my attention are these YouTube, are they

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called commentators, I guess, where they, take clips from, It's always

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reality television, what comes to my attention reality television, they do

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this commentary over what was being said.

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And there was 1 in particular, it was like a pop psychologist.

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And so he was taking these clips from this, reality television shows, and then.

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kind of putting his pop psych spin on it and apparently he got in

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some trouble about it because, I think His channel was demonetized.

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And so now he has to, like, do these really funky things with the images

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so that he's not, committing copyright infringement when he kind of does like.

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Half the screen or something, or in order to not, infringe copyrights.

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But yeah, you can't use even clips from TV shows without permission,

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danger of copyright infringement.

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the other example is using a photograph, on your website without permission.

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You do need to have a license for that.

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Even if you found it online, it requires the consent of the copyright

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owner to use that photograph.

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And Music, integrating music into a presentation, into a video on,

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the introduction of the podcast.

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I have a license for the music, for the intro and outro music.

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Cause that is someone's, work, and I need consent to use it.

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on the other hand.

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Plagiarism is the act of using someone else's work or ideas

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without proper attribution and presenting those ideas as your own.

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Plagiarism is considered an ethical violation, unlike copyright

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infringement, which is a legal violation.

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However, it is not without consequences.

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Probably all of us first became aware plagiarism in school when

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we were told that we have to give proper attribution to our sources.

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They remember those.

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I mean, it's been a long time for me, but when we did those reports,

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we had to make sure we, gave credit to where we, got materials.

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And, uh, if we took something, , out of an encyclopedia.

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And, giving credit to where it came from.

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so even if I wasn't going to get in trouble if I, stole something out of

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the encyclopedia without giving credit to it, but that would be plagiarism and

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that would have academic consequences.

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Right?

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And so it also now in our professional lives, it can have professional as

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well as reputational consequences.

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If we are stealing other people's ideas and passing them off as our own.

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And so it, of course, you as we're developing our reputations,

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developing our brands, our voices, our thought leadership, we do not

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want to be in the plagiarism business.

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Even if we do not end up with, statutory damages as a result.

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you can absolutely have major reputational and professional consequences.

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To committing plagiarism, some examples of plagiarism, copying and pasting texts

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from a source without proper citation.

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The one that we know of from school, paraphrasing somebody

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else's ideas without giving credit.

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That's probably going to be more applicable to what we're

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doing in these days as we're developing our thought leadership.

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Submitting someone else's work as our own, that might even fall into the

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crossover there and then failing to acknowledge collaborators or co authors.

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I do want to drill into this 1 because, you know, I have done a number of

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presentations about what the copyright.

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issues are surrounding collaborations and co authorship.

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So why does failing to acknowledge a co author fall under plagiarism,

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but not under copyright infringement?

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Well, recall that a co author, each co author, I'm just going to use,

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let's say there's 2 co authors.

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Each co author owns 100 percent of the copyright in that co authored

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work, and it's not just, you know, 100 percent plus 100 percent equals 200%.

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It's just each co author has 100 percent of the rights in that work,

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so it can do all of those things that I mentioned above, perform,

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display, create derivatives, give other people's rights to do it.

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They can do each of them separately without the copyright.

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The consent of the other, that's why it's percent because they don't need

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to get consent from the other person.

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what I could do is I have a coauthor of a work.

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I can publish it because I have not exclusive rights.

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I have a hundred percent rights to do it without permission from

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my coauthor and not give credit.

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To my co author.

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So is that a copyright infringement?

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No, because I have the rights to do that.

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But is that plagiarism?

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Yes, because I am not giving my co author credit for her contribution

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to that co authored work.

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So the main differences just in a nutshell, copyright infringement.

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Is a violation of legal rights granted by copyright law or as plagiarism

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is a breach of the ethical standards that we would expect an academic

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professional, reputational, spheres, related to honesty and integrity.

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even if no law is broken, there's different kind of

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bodies that deal with this.

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If it is a copyright infringement, of course, we have access to the court

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system and other legal remedies, assuming it's registered, and, Courts for if

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it's registered, there are other legal remedies, even if it isn't registered.

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whereas our plagiarism, that's going to be handled one by

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the court of public opinion.

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if people find out that you steal people's ideas and also there can

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be real significant consequences in the academic setting, certainly

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maybe suspension expulsion, failing a class, in the professional realm,

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people distrust you, they wonder, they don't want to work with you.

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maybe you lose a job because you represented yourself as being the

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author of something that you weren't or that you, bringing some ideas to

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an engagement that aren't your own.

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And just general reputational harm that can come from that.

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And then the protections that are available to us are different.

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we register our copyrights, in order to make sure that we are protecting.

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are expressions.

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copyright does not protect ideas, but it protects the expression

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of the idea, what we wrote, what we recorded, what we painted.

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but, plagiarism does protect our ideas as well.

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So where is the intersection?

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So the intersection comes when We steal someone's expression.

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So we literally take some of those rights.

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you know, someone write something and we lift it up and we put our name on

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it and we distribute it as our own.

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That is both a copyright infringement.

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and plagiarism and by the way, you can have copyright infringement

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without plagiarism, just to be clear, like, if you take somebody else's

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work, you give them full credit for and people do get confused by that.

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Like, I'm giving them credit, but they still must give you permission.

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To distribute it.

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So the fact that you gave me credit does not negate the copyright infringement

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if I have not given you permission to distribute it regardless of the

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credit that you may give to me.

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So that would be plagiarism.

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copyright infringement without plagiarism when I give credit,

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but I don't have permission.

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And then I can also have plagiarism without a copyright infringement when I

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take someone's ideas, because ideas are not eligible for copyright infringement.

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Protection or even if we were to take something in the public domain

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because there are some things that might be in the public domain,

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like something that's very old.

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Like, I could take an unpublished work of Shakespeare.

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I don't know what, you know, and say, like, look what I did.

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it's not protected by copyright law anymore, but that would obviously be

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plagiarism if I slap my name on there.

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the tried and true best practices to make sure we neither infringe nor

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plagiarize, always get permission to use content that you do not own.

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If you're taking the content, assume it is copyrighted.

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If it's intangible form, you're finding it in writing, you're finding it in

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the internet, it's intangible form.

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And unless you know that it is in the public domain, because you know, it is

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AI generated, or, you know, that it is, 1 of the categories of public domain.

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I talk about that a lot too.

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then you want to make sure you get permission to use it.

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Get use proper attribution, if you're talking about, purple cows, I'm going

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to assume that was originally Seth go inside and I could be wrong about that.

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make sure you're giving attribution to where you're getting the ideas

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about blue oceans or things like that.

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cite your sources.

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I'm sure everyone here has had plenty of experience, writing research papers, using

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third party sources and make sure you're studying your sources and sometimes it

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happens, accidentally, certainly if we are using AI materials, we want to make sure

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that, They haven't kicked out something that might show up on a plagiarism checker

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as being plagiarism and I'm going to talk about why I don't think it's plagiarism

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still, It will damage your reputation if you are using ideas that aren't your own.

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so let's get to my hot take about why I think AI isn't plagiarism, despite

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what I just said, because there is kind of the loose notion of not plagiarism.

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Taking other people's ideas as your own, and I don't endorse it.

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I think it's a bad idea.

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I don't want you to do it.

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But I think as an ethical issue that plagiarism has 2 purposes.

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The 1st purpose.

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Is to make sure that the originator of the idea gets proper credit for it.

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It is the product of their own intellect, their own expertise, their own deep

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thinking, their own thought leadership.

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That is side 1 of the.

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two sided coins of plagiarism is making sure that the originator of

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the idea is properly credited for the product of their intellect.

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The other side is to make sure that the plagiarist, I think that's a word,

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the person who commits plagiarism.

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Doesn't get credit for that idea.

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It should not be part of their body of work.

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It should not be included in a thought leadership because that's not their idea.

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And by the way, I'm not talking about copyright infringement here at all.

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I am talking about ideas and said that they're not getting

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credit for someone else's ideas.

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It's not the product of their deep thinking product of their expertise.

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They've taken it from somebody else.

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And so those are the two sides to me of the ethical considerations

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where we're thinking about, really condemning someone in the

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professional setting for plagiarism.

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for the first side, The originator getting credit for their ideas

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for the use of their intellect, that simply doesn't apply to AI.

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When AI is the creator of the content, then there is no ethical

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obligation to make sure that AI gets credit for its ideas it.

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Even have any ideas, right?

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Or is it just an algorithm of some sort, whatever the magic

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is that happens inside of, ai.

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so does it get the respect that we want to, reserve for.

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The true creators of ideas is a, I get that kind of respect that plagiarism

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is intended to prevent and my answer to that is no, that it is not intended

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to do that on the other side of the plagiarism coin to make sure that the.

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Person who plagiarizes doesn't get to include those ideas in their own body

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of work as their own thought leadership.

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And personally, what is coming out of AI, AI generated content, nothing that's got,

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I've seen this come out of AI is even close to being worthy of being some big

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idea that is worthy of being included.

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Being, in someone's, body of work, I mean, most of what's coming out of

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AI, that's, you know, maybe they're, writing a blog post or, doing an outline

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or making some social media posts.

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I'm not saying that it can't be more sophisticated, the more

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that you work with it, but.

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generally what is being generated by AI is a regurgitation of, a mishmash

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of ideas that are already out there, that they're just kind of coming

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together to try to spit something out.

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It's been my experience and that is literally it's function, is to take

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the ideas that are already out there

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And, create something serviceable, that's assuming it's not hallucinating.

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I mean, I guess we could call original, but typically that means

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it's just, flawed or inaccurate.

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so in my opinion, neither.

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Purpose of, why the ethical consequences of plagiarism are so, real and severe.

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Neither of those purposes are met when we're talking about AI generated content.

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We're not trying to protect the originator of the ideas, which is AI.

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That's not.

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To me why we have ethical condemnation of plagiarism.

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And there's also, if you are using AI as part of your thought leadership, that's

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some pretty poor thought leadership.

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we're now also not benefiting from stealing somebody else's big ideas

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when the big ideas came from AI.

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So them's me thoughts.

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Let me know what you think.

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And, join me again.

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Remember IP is fuel.

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Thanks guys.

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Meet Erin Austin, a Harvard Law alum with over 25 years of copyright and contracts experience. As the go-to advisor for professionals with corporate clients, Erin empowers entrepreneurs to be their own advocates, standing out for her commitment to transforming expertise into empires through the creation, protection and leveraging of intellectual property assets. Explore her blend of legal expertise and entrepreneurial insight on ThinkBeyondIP.com and the "Hourly to Exit" podcast. Off the clock, you'll find Erin in the great outdoors or connecting with business coaches to elevate 6-figure consultants into 7-figure powerhouses.